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  Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soliciting any and all opinions.

  as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.

  my fade has gone from us fighting.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  My tuppence worth...

  Full disclosure happened a few months ago for me. She's known I've had doubts for the last year and that I've been discussing them with some elders and had no satisfying answers.

  For me, even though I'd been told not to talk to my own wife about my issues (!) I couldn't cope with the dishonesty of it all, the hiding of my inner thoughts, and just figured she deserved to know the truth about how I felt.

  I told her I didn't believe a weird of it anymore, there's no way we were god's one true organisation, but that I was keenly aware of the devastating effect my leaving would have on our lives, family and social etc... So I said I was willing to put up a pretense for her sake and just do the bare minimum.

  I really do love her, and my hope is that her curiosity will kick in at some point and she'll ask some questions about why I don't believe. I won't press the issues, she's got to want to research it for herself, but I'll be ready for any questions when they come.

  If after all that she decided to carry on being a witness, that's her choice, but I can't see me doing it forever.

  Anyway, I've toiled with this 'full disclosure' question for years, I've got to say it feels great to be utterly out in the open about it . no more making excuses for myself about missing ministry or meetings, she knows exactly how I feel and will be expecting a lack of enthusiasm for all things spiritual.

  And hopefully she'll see I'm being more than reasonable in the process.

  Full disclosure ftw!
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  Happiness is achievable

  by asensier in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  update - for those of you who read my last topic 'disfellowshipped at 18' i am so thankful for all the support and helpful comments i received.

  it's amazing to know that despite how alone i may feel, so many of you have suffered the same way that i have.

  i know that i can live happily without being one of jehovah's witnesses.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Wow. You're so much braver and more coherent and together and courageous than I was at your age, probably more than I am even now..!

  Well done for making your mind up at such a young age, the rest of your life is ahead of you now, and its yours to do with as you please. It took me forty years to realise this. Good for you!
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  How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i don't know of any but would like some references if anyone does.

  of course not all atheists or irreligious people need to belong to an organization.. studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 8% of the world's population, whereas irreligious individuals represent a further 10% to 20%.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_atheism.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  I didn't realise there were so many!

  So I suppose the OP means outrightly secular AND atheist, as opposed to just secular organisations that might not be affiliated with any particular religion , like the police force or a branch of government that looks after care homes etc..
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  How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i don't know of any but would like some references if anyone does.

  of course not all atheists or irreligious people need to belong to an organization.. studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 8% of the world's population, whereas irreligious individuals represent a further 10% to 20%.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_atheism.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Sorry for the big paste, but this is from Wikipedia...

  • Atheist Alliance International[7]
  • The Brights' Net is a nonprofit educational organization dedicated to "building a constituency" and "constructively address[ing] the marginalized situation of persons who have a naturalistic worldview."[8]
  • European Humanist Federation is a union of "numerous humanist organisations from most European countries" whose purpose is to promote humanism and secularism in Europe.[9]
  • International Humanist and Ethical Union(IHEU) is "the sole world umbrella organisation embracing Humanist, atheist, rationalist, secularist, skeptic, laique, [sic][10]ethical cultural, freethought and similar organisations world-wide." IHEU is a union of over 100 Humanist or secularist organizations in more than 40 countries. It is an international NGO (Non-governmental organization) with special consultative status with the United Nations.[11]
  • International League of Humanists
  • International League of non-religious and atheists
  • Rationalist International

  AustraliaEdit

  • Atheist Foundation of Australia
  • Council of Australian Humanist Societies
  • Rationalist Society of Australia
  • The Secular Party of Australia

  BelgiumEdit

  • Willemsfonds

  BrazilEdit

  • Brazilian Association of Atheists and Agnostics (ATEA)
  • Sociedade da Terra Redonda
  • Secular Humanist League of Brazil

  CanadaEdit

  • Humanist Association of Canada
  • Mouvement laïque québécois
  • Centre for Inquiry Canada
  • Freethought Association of Canada

  GermanyEdit

  • Central Council of Ex-Muslims
  • German Freethinkers League
  • Giordano Bruno Foundation (Giordano Bruno Stiftung)
  • International League of non-religious and atheists
  • Humanistischer Verband Deutschlands

  IcelandEdit

  • Sidmennt - Icelandic Ethical Humanist Association

  IndiaEdit

  • Indian Rationalist Association
  • Atheist Center
  • Dakshina Kannada Rationalist Association
  • Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations
  • Hyderabad Rationalist Forum
  • Indian Humanist Union
  • Kerala Yukthivadi Sangham

  IndonesiaEdit

  • Indonesian Atheists

  IrelandEdit

  • Atheist Ireland
  • Humanist Association of Ireland
  • Humani

  ItalyEdit

  • Italian Union of Rationalist Atheists and Agnostics (UAAR)

  KuwaitEdit

  • Youth Association of Kuwait (yakuwait)

  NetherlandsEdit

  • De Vrije Gedachte (DVG, "The Free Thought")

  New ZealandEdit

  • Humanist Society of New Zealand
  • New Zealand Association of Rationalists and Humanists
  • New Zealand Skeptics

  Northern IrelandEdit

  • Humani

  NorwayEdit

  • Human-Etisk Forbund HEF has over 78,000 members,[12] making it "the largest group [in Norway] outside the State Church."[13]
  • Norwegian Heathen Society

  PhilippinesEdit

  

  The Philippine Atheists and Agnostics Society (PATAS) logo

  • Filipino Freethinkers
  • Philippine Atheists and Agnostics Society

  Puerto RicoEdit

  • Movimiento Ateista de Puerto Rico,[14] first and oldest secular organization in Puerto Rico Founded in 2008 by Edward Vitale

  ScotlandEdit

  • Humanist Society of Scotland
  • Scottish Secular Society, founded in 2012, identifies itself as Scotland's largest secular group.

  SwedenEdit

  • Swedish Humanist Association

  United KingdomEdit

  • British Humanist Association
  • Conway Hall Ethical Society, founded in 1793, identifies itself as "the oldest freethought community in the world." Conwall Hall[15]
  • Gay and Lesbian Humanist Association
  • Humani
  • Humanist Society of Scotland
  • Leicester Secular Society, founded in 1851, bills itself as the "oldest secular society in the world."[16]
  • National Secular Society
  • North East Humanists
  • Rationalist Association
  • Scottish Secular Society

  United StatesEdit

  

  Freedom From Religion Foundationbillboard

  

  American Atheist bench and "Ten Commandments" display (Bradford County, Florida).

  • American Atheists
  • American Ethical Union - a federation of about 25 Ethical Societies representing theEthical Culture movement founded in 1876 byFelix Adler.
  • American Humanist Association, The first and largest organization promoting Humanism in the US. The American Humanist Association strives to bring about a progressive society where being good without gods is an accepted way to live life. We are accomplishing this through our defense of civil liberties and secular governance, by our outreach to the growing number of people without traditional religious faith, and through a continued refinement and advancement of the humanist worldview.[17]
  • American Secular Union
  • Americans United for Separation of Church and State is a nonpartisan organization dedicated to preserving church-state separation to ensure religious freedom for all Americans.[18]
  • The Atheist Agenda
  • Atheist Community of Austin (TX)
  • Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty, "The Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty" represents multiple Baptist groups (but not the Southern Baptist Convention) in supporting religious liberty and the separation of church and state.
  • Camp Inquiry, a summer camp run by the Center for Inquiry.[19]
  • Camp Quest, "The Secular Summer Camp", is the first residential summer camp in the United States for the children of those who hold a naturalistic world view.[20]
  • Center for Inquiry The mission of the Center for Inquiry is to foster a secular society based on science, reason, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values. The Center for Inquiry holds that evidence-based reasoning, in which humans work together to address common concerns, is critical for modern world civilization. CFI also maintains that values are properly the subject of study and discussion as much as empirical claims. CFI, and its affiliates, the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and the Council for Secular Humanism, also carry out their work through education, publishing, advocacy, and social services, especially through their dozens of regional centers and communities, and programs in many different countries.
  • City Congregation for Humanistic Judaism
  • Council for Secular Humanism is a non-profit educational association and, according to its website, "North America's leading organization for non-religious people." The Council aims to "meet the needs of people who find meaning and value in life without looking to a god." CSH publishes Free Inquiry.
  • Fellowship of Humanity
  • First Humanist Society of New York
  • Freedom From Religion Foundation, according to its website, is the "largest group of atheists and agnostics in North America." The Foundation represents the interests of freethinkers, with an emphasis on gender equality and reproductive rights, and the separation of church and state. It publishesFreethought Today, "the only freethought newspaper in North America."
  • The Humanist Institute
  • Institute for Humanist Studies
  • Internet Infidels is "a nonprofit educational organization dedicated to defending and promoting a naturalistic worldview on the Internet."
  • Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers
  • North Texas Church of Freethought
  • Practice What You Preach Foundation is a "non-profit organization that builds bridges between faith communities and secular organizations in the Greater Los Angeles Area."
  • Rational Response Squad
  • The Reason Project
  • Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science
  • Secular Coalition for America
  • Secular Policy Institute is a think tank organization of thought leaders, writers, scholars and speakers with a shared mission to influence public opinion and promote a secular society.[21]
  • Secular Student Alliance
  • United Coalition of Reason
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  The spread of religion through history

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when growing up a jw, i was always confused as to world history, geography and religious development.

  it didn't make sense, because what we were told was simply untrue.... http://tinyurl.com/purzy8k.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Very interesting, thanks for posting snare.. How's the leg? More importantly, how's the bike!
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  Disfellowshipped at 18

  by asensier in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

  he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

  we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  I've not been there you are yet, but it's a real possibility in the future.. I'm sure our welcome messages will help towards overcoming the goodbye messages. Do research, (jw facts is a perfect place to start) then sit back and realise you guys have got your entire life in front of you, at least you didn't waste 40 years . take care matey..
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  Let's Play a Game Using Instagram... JWS or LDS?

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. humour

  jw or lds??

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Great game, I'm going jw with this one. You can tell he wants to grow a beard but doesn't want to upset the almighty sovereign of the universe by doing so. Micro-expressions you know.
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  Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

  " twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

  she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Stuff the regular routine, you need to hand in your application to be a regular anti pioneer!
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  Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

  " twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

  she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Brilliant! Can I bump into you on the ministry sometime while working with my wife please?
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  Fun at The WT This Morning

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.

  14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".

  after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".

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  disposable hero of hypocrisy

  Jolly good!